What happens if i help head paladin hardin

His policies are not better, just more ignorant. User Info: AquamanOS. Neither of them is really going to help the Brotherhood in the end, which would require more drastic change and oh I don't know perhaps not marking everyone with advanced tech an enemy. Which neither of them really seem willing to do. Even if you ally them with NCR part of the deal is that they take back the NCR's power armors which admittedly they aren't using properly anyway but still..

So it basically comes down to how the choices directly affect this game. Hardin will finish the quest chain and allow you to get power armor faster, since he just sends you to kill the Van Graffs and that's it, while McNamara sends you all over the place and then finally to Black Mountain.

Otherwise every other faction besides Yes Man will order you to wipe them out. More topics from this board Is there a developers area with all items like in fallout 3? General 3 Answers Is there a companion for a legion player? Side Quest 5 Answers What are the benefits for siding with each faction?

General 9 Answers. Ask A Question. Browse More Questions. Keep me logged in on this device. Forgot your username or password? So far has been so good, but now I've come to an impasse I could use some advice on. I want the Brotherhood of Steel to be one of my allies. If I choose Hardin, I'm unable to mend their relations to the NCR, but this isn't really a problem considering I don't want them around anyway.

However, if I do choose him, will I be able to gain their support during the final battle if I'm just Accepted and haven't actually joined them? I ask because if I do want to, my test is to kill the Van Graffs. I don't want to do this since I've already helped them and killing them would decrease my rep in Freeside, which I don't want either. Ammunition Apparel and armor C. Administrators Account management Discord Vault Academy. Administration policy Article layout Canon guidelines Content policy Discussions forum Reference formatting User conduct.

Citation project Speculation removal Suggested merge and splits Template headquarters Template overview. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? Edgar Hardin. View source. History Talk I'm the Head Paladin of this chapter, and I think we might be able to help each other out. His even becoming Elder was highly questionable, seeing as how he was a Scribe.

Typically, only Paladins are eligible. But an exception was made in his case, on account of him being a genius. Unfortunately, whatever scientific acumen he had didn't extend to tactics. Many of the senior paladins, myself included, advised him to fight a retreating action, but he refused to budge. Said he almost "had it working". We never did find out exactly what he was talking about. When the perimeter was finally overrun, the Elder had simply vanished. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

Name's Hardin. I don't know what the Elder talked to you about, but I can tell you this chapter is in trouble, and he's at the center of it. AkumaMatata that's funny because danse was supposed to become elder if he fights maxson during his quest they cut it out though there is a mod that puts it in PC only I think.

If you don't intend on siding with the NCR, the quests he gives you are much better than the ones available from McNamara imo. Instead of collection three's of something, you get to murder the Van Graff's. What do you mean collect threes of something you only have to plant something at Black mountain and you get to use power armor I think your thinking of Veronica's quest it's the same for both elders you only need to collect one though I usually go for the pulse gun since you have to fight some brotherhood depending on how you finish her quest won't spoil.

McNamara's quest are long and time consuming, not to mention annoying. I would like to point out, I have an intense hatred of almost every vault in any of the fallout games. So McNamara making me dive into 3 is annoying to say the least. But when doing an actual playthrough, where I care about the brotherhood, I never pick Hardin. He fails the Brotherhood. Explore Wikis Community Central.